Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu! news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!129.240.148.23!uio.no!nntp.uio.no! ifi.uio.no!internet-mailinglist Newsgroups: fa.linux.kernel Return-Path: <linux-kernel-ow...@vger.kernel.org> Original-Message-ID: <3CA7D119.4B84F7DD@goingware.com> Original-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 22:16:41 -0500 From: "Michael D. Crawford" <crawf...@goingware.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Does Solaris source license interfere with Linux contributions? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-ow...@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Organization: Internet mailing list Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 03:30:50 GMT Message-ID: <fa.esi00jv.6j4no3@ifi.uio.no> Lines: 72 I wish to inquire how signing the solaris 8 foundation source code license might affect my future ability to contribute to free software. I would like to do as much as I can in the future to contribute to free software. Off and on I've been studying the linux kernel with the aim of contributing meaningful code to Linux and other free software, although I haven't done much but some testing and bug reporting so far for the kernel. I may have an opportunity to get a job with a good company developing Solaris device drivers, pretty fancy ones at that. It's not a sure thing yet, but they have said they'd like to hire me when the economy improves somewhat. I'd like to improve my odds at getting the job and keeping it, so I'm thinking of installing Solaris for Intel on my PC and later getting a sparc machine, and learning all about the Solaris kernel. It's been a while since I've used Solaris at all. Sun makes the solaris 8 source available for "viewing" (perhaps just a little better than Microsoft's "shared source"). It would serve my immediate purposes to study that source code, but I'm concerned the license I would have to sign would restrict my ability to write free software in the future. That is, if I was privy to proprietary Sun algorithms or implementations, then Sun might give me a hard time if I later contributed code to the Linux kernel, or if my code made it into the kernel, then Sun could give everyone a hard time. The license can be downloaded from: http://www.sun.com/solaris/source/license_agreement.html But rather than asking you to download the license there must be some among you who have considered the question already, so I ask you to share your thoughts on this. I felt concerned when I found the license requirement because I read on the Kaffe.org website that they could not accept code into the VM that came from people who'd ever read the Sun Java VM source code. I have wide-ranging programming interests, and I'd like to be able to contribute to anything I wanted. If you wonder how a joker who's never programmed either a solaris or linux driver could get a job writing fancy solaris drivers, I did used to be a system software engineer at Apple, where I did a bunch of debugging and performance tuning of the classic Mac OS (not Mac OS X), mostly at the assembly level, working on interrupt, VM code and such. So I have worked on device drivers and kernel level work, although it was nothing like a Unix or Linux kernel. In some ways it was much harder than what you folks do, because the classic Mac OS architecture lived much longer than it really should have, and grew a lot of warts. I've been programming for a long time, and the head of engineering at this company that wants to hire me seemed to care more for the fact that I just knew my way around software than that I had a specific skillset. I consider clients and employers who have this attitude to be a rare and refreshing contrast from the usual buzzword-blinded recruiters, so I prize them like jewels. So I'd really like to work for these people. Thanks for any advice you can give me, Michael D. Crawford GoingWare Inc. - Expert Software Development and Consulting http://www.goingware.com/ crawf...@goingware.com Tilting at Windmills for a Better Tomorrow. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/