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From: p...@pyuxqq.UUCP (Pat M. Iurilli)
Newsgroups: net.micro.pc
Subject: PC/VI now available
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Date: Fri, 10-Jan-86 10:20:49 EST
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Posted: Fri Jan 10 10:20:49 1986
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Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway, NJ
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Keywords: vi pc ms-dos screen editor
A version of vi is now available that runs under MS-DOS. It's from
Custom Software Systems, P.O.Box 551 MO., Shrewsbury, MA 00545,
phone 617-842-1712 for $149.00. It is designed to run on an IBM PC or
compatible. It's about time!
--
Pat M. Iurilli Bell Communications Research Piscataway, NJ
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From: lyo...@ihlpm.UUCP (LORANY)
Newsgroups: net.micro.pc
Subject: Re: PC/VI now available (mini Review)
Message-ID: <654@ihlpm.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 12-Jan-86 00:38:14 EST
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Posted: Sun Jan 12 00:38:14 1986
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> A version of vi is now available that runs under MS-DOS. It's from
This should read: Vi is now available....
> Custom Software Systems, P.O.Box 551 MO., Shrewsbury, MA 00545,
> phone 617-842-1712 for $149.00. It is designed to run on an IBM PC or
> compatible. It's about time!
> --
If you get this you should also get a different ANSI.SYS device
driver. I have purchased PC/VI and found it to be like an ADM 3a
at 9600 baud with the standard ANSI.SYS driver due to the lack of
delete or insert line. I purchased the FCONSOLE.DEV driver that
Custom Software Systems recommended from Hersey Micro in MI and
re-did the termcap (added the delete/insert line capability) for
the 'ibmpc' entry. The difference in speed is like night and
day. I use PC/VI in conjunction with Turbo Lightning and it makes
a GREAT editing system. PC/VI also works with a terminal off the
serial port at 9600 baud; just update the termcap lib for it.
PC/VI has all of the idiosyncrasies the UNIX version has so there
is nothing to get use to except fast response. I imagine that
PC/VI would work even faster with an AT. A final note, if you
don't have a hard disk it will slow down tremendously due to
temporary file allocation for 'undo' and the space for the
support files it requires.
Now if I could only get a COMPLETE version of memorandum macros,
'mm' for MS-DOS, I wouldn't want to get UNIX for my pc anymore!
Loran Yourk
AT&T Technologies
ihnp4!ihlpm!lyourk
W: 312-510-6885
Disclammier: I have no connection with the companies mentioned
above except that I am an addicted user of their software
products and without them my PC/XT would be an expensive toy.
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From: gra...@noao.UUCP (Steve Grandi)
Newsgroups: net.micro.pc
Subject: Re: PC/VI now available (mini Review)
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Date: Tue, 14-Jan-86 12:15:26 EST
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Posted: Tue Jan 14 12:15:26 1986
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Organization: Natl. Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ USA
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Summary:
PC/VI works on any MS-DOS machine and comes complete with MS-DOS
termlib routines (although the documentation isn't ready yet...).
I use it on my Ampro Little Board/186 driving a VT100 and all I had to
do was copy my Unix termcap entry over and it works fine. Since PC/VI
is a BIG program and uses temporary files, a hard disk would be nice;
but I have no real complaints with my floppy-based system.
Is PC/VI a straight port of Berkeley vi? I don't see any UCB
copyright information, but it sure looks and feels like UCB vi!
--
Steve Grandi, National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, 602-325-9228
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From: k...@datagen.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.micro,net.micro.pc
Subject: PC/VI Version 1.01
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Date: Tue, 8-Apr-86 10:46:30 EST
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Posted: Tue Apr 8 10:46:30 1986
Date-Received: Sat, 12-Apr-86 00:42:45 EST
Organization: Data General Distributed Systems, Westborough, MA
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Keywords: vi
I've just received PC/VI Version 1.01 from Custom Software
Systems. The release also included a new manual. The manual
is both twice the size of the original one I got back in November
and has been greatly cleaned up and enhanced.
The new version of the program has about 99% of the bugs fixed
which I've seen documented here on the net, plus a number of
other enhancements. One interested enhancement is that the .EXE
file is 2KB smaller! CSS said that they made a number of optimizations
to reduce the size of their data space requirement.
Another interesting addition was the inclusion of a version of the
program which was specifically compiled for the 80186 instruction
set (this includes the NEC V20 and 80286). CSS makes no guarantees
that this version will work, but I've used it and have yet to
find a problem. Now if they only thing they had to do was
recompile the program, why don't other software manufacturers do
the same thing?
If you have no idea what PC/VI is, it is a FULL (and I do mean full!)
implementation of the UNIX VI under MS-DOS. It is available from:
Custom Software Systems
PO Box 551 MO
Shrewsbury, MA 01545
617-842-1712
(Note: The latest letter I got from them said explicitly that
you will probably only be able to reach them from 7-8:30AM and
8-11PM. However, you can leave a message on their answering
machine and the DO return their phone calls.)
Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with this company. Please send
any orders or information requests to the above address.
John Korn
Diagnostics Engineer
Data General Corp.
{allegra, ihnp4, decvax}!datagen!korn
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From: k...@datagen.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.micro.pc,net.micro
Subject: PC/VI Version 1.02
Message-ID: <31@datagen.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 8-Jul-86 10:37:59 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul 8 10:37:59 1986
Date-Received: Fri, 11-Jul-86 04:47:53 EDT
Organization: Data General Distributed Systems, Westborough, MA
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Keywords: VI, PC/VI
For those using PC/VI (a full implementation of UNIX VI running under
MS/PC-DOS) you should be aware that a new version has recently been
released; version 1.02. The new version has been highly optimized
so it can edit larger files (approx. 10,000 lines versus ver. 1.01's
7,500 line limit), has a smaller executable file (down to 104KB from
118KB), and a list of bugs fixed (most relatively minor, one VERY major),
plus the edition of UNIX Version 3.9 VI compatibility (mode lines
and showmode support).
All in all PC/VI remains an EXCELLENT product. It is the only
COMPLETE implementation of VI which is available for MS-DOS.
For those who have not received Version 1.02 as yet, you should
contact Custom Software Systems. When I talked to them
last they said that MANY users had not returned their registration
forms and only registered users would get updates. Since
there is a 90 day period in which you get updates for free, you
might as well take advantage of it and mail in your registration form.
Custom Software Systems
PO Box 678
Natick, MA 01760
617-653-2555
John Korn
Diagnostics Engineer
Data General Corp.
{allegra, ihnp4, decvax}!datagen!korn
Note: Other than being a VERY satisifed customer of CSS, I have *NO*
affiliation with this company (I barely have any affiliation with DG
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From: ke...@hp-pcd.UUCP (keith)
Newsgroups: net.micro.hp
Subject: PC/VI works on the HP 150
Message-ID: <15100017@hpcvlo.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 12-Sep-86 13:19:00 EDT
Article-I.D.: hpcvlo.15100017
Posted: Fri Sep 12 13:19:00 1986
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Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Corvallis, OR
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Nf-From: hpcvlo!keith Sep 12 09:19:00 1986
Want "vi" to run on your 150?
Try PC/VI from Custom Software Systems. It is a rare instance of a
USEFUL generic MS-DOS program. It uses "termcap" to gain screen
independence of its code. It works on IBMs, Vectras, and the usual
clones. PC/VI is a very complete implementation of vi.
The use of termcap is actually a plus for the 150, because above all,
the 150 is a good terminal.
To order your copy contact:
Custom Software Systems
P.O. Box 678
Natick, MA 01760
617-653-2555
Note: They ship on 5 1/4" media.
Site licenses are available.
Keith M. Taylor
Portable Computer Division
Corvallis, Oregon
hp-pcd!keith
PS. There is a problem (probably my fault!) in the 150 termcap
shipped with PC/VI 1.01 and 1.02. The symptom is that characters appear
to be doubled entered on the screen. The solution is to edit the termcap
entry and remove the numbers that force termcap to send out pad
characters. I've changed the following entries in my termcap
OLD NEW COMMENT
--------------- --------------- ---------------
dc=2\EP dc=\EP
ip=2 Deleted
ta=2^I ta=^I
if=/lib/std.tab if=a\:/lib/std.tab To find it from another disk
(i.e. the OLD one works only
if you're on drive a:)