Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site SCIRTP.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad! decvax!mcnc!rti-sel!SCIRTP!dfh From: dfh@SCIRTP.UUCP (David F. Hinnant) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Putting Job Control in System V? Message-ID: <267@SCIRTP.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 14:04:16 EDT Article-I.D.: SCIRTP.267 Posted: Thu Aug 1 14:04:16 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 4-Aug-85 04:44:42 EDT Distribution: net Organization: SCI Systems, Research Triangle Park, NC Lines: 40 We're contemplating putting job control into our generic System V kernel. We would like opinions on what changes we would have to make to add: 1) System V.2 style job control with shell layers (shl) using pseudo-ttys. 2) BSD style job control with the C shell. Specificly: Our initial impression is that it would be easier to put System V.2 style job control in. Is this a valid assumption? In comparing the two styles, what are the design tradeoffs? implementation differences? Would you do one or the other or both if given the choice? How difficult would it be to add the additional signals needed by BSD style job control and other changes to a System V kernel? What exactly are the changes other than additional signals and a new line discipline? I've heard rumors of V.2 job control bugs when it first came out. Something to do with the sticky bit? Could someone explain exactly what went on? Do the problems still exist? Will System V.3 have the V.2 style job control, or will it be different? Does anyone know? Will System V.3 have sockets? Which style job control does the Korn shell use? As always, I'll summarize and post any mailed response I receive. Thanks in advance -- David Hinnant SCI Systems, Inc. {decvax, akgua}!mcnc!rti-sel!scirtp!dfh
Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site SCIRTP.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad! decvax!mcnc!rti-sel!SCIRTP!dfh From: dfh@SCIRTP.UUCP (David F. Hinnant) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: UNIX file size distribution info? Message-ID: <270@SCIRTP.UUCP> Date: Fri, 2-Aug-85 12:25:57 EDT Article-I.D.: SCIRTP.270 Posted: Fri Aug 2 12:25:57 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 4-Aug-85 07:03:40 EDT Distribution: net Organization: SCI Systems, Research Triangle Park, NC Lines: 13 I remember seeing a graph or table not too long ago giving the file size distribution for an average UNIX system. I.e., there were x files of size y, x1 files of size y1, etc. I thought this was in the BSTJ of last October, but I don't see it now. Does anybody know where I can find this info? Also, any info relating to command distribution by classes of users (documentation, software engineering, secretarial, etc) is welcome. Thanks in advance, -- David Hinnant SCI Systems, Inc. {decvax, akgua}!mcnc!rti-sel!scirtp!dfh
Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site SCIRTP.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!mcnc!rti-sel! SCIRTP!dfh From: dfh@SCIRTP.UUCP (David F. Hinnant) Newsgroups: net.lan,net.unix-wizards Subject: socket library under System V? Message-ID: <284@SCIRTP.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Aug-85 12:05:33 EDT Article-I.D.: SCIRTP.284 Posted: Tue Aug 6 12:05:33 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Aug-85 20:42:14 EDT Distribution: net Organization: SCI Systems, Research Triangle Park, NC Lines: 21 Xref: linus net.lan:809 net.unix-wizards:11418 We've been talking with various Ethernet vendors (Interlan, CMC, Excelan, etc.) concerning implementing Ethernet on our 80286 Multibus box under UNIX System V. Software-wise they'll give us a "socket library", TCP/IP, a driver, and the BSD applications. All the pieces are there; it's the "socket library" that has me a bit confused. 4.2 BSD implements sockets in the kernel. I presume the socket library gives the same functionality, but I don't see how. Can anyone that has this kind of library tell me what it actually does? Is there a public-domain socket-type library? We've heard a lot about SLIP, and we're thinking about puting SLIP on another machine of ours. Does SLIP use 4.2 type sockets? As always, thanks in advance. -- David Hinnant SCI Systems, Inc. {decvax, akgua}!mcnc!rti-sel!scirtp!dfh