From: mamachari <inou0...@gold.tc.umn.edu> Subject: 64 bit Linux? Date: 1995/05/19 Message-ID: <D8tEwG.6rH@news.cis.umn.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 102956512 sender: n...@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities x-url: news:comp.os.linux.development.system mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system x-mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; Linux 1.1.59 i486) Greetings! I was curious if there is now or will soon be a 64 bit version of Linux for Pentium-class machines. Thank you in advance. David //////////////////////////////////////// http://www.umn.edu/nlhome/g500/inou0003/ ////////////////////////////////////////
From: fbenn...@cais.com () Subject: Re: 64 bit Linux? Date: 1995/05/20 Message-ID: <3pm1i9$mht@news.cais.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 102956538 references: <D8tEwG.6rH@news.cis.umn.edu> organization: Capital Area Internet Service i...@cais.com 703-448-4470 newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system mamachari <inou0...@gold.tc.umn.edu> wrote: >Greetings! >I was curious if there is now or will soon >be a 64 bit version of Linux for Pentium-class >machines. >Thank you in advance. >David >//////////////////////////////////////// >http://www.umn.edu/nlhome/g500/inou0003/ >//////////////////////////////////////// Do you mean something that will handle the dual processor???? If thats the fact then yes I am curious when the dual processor version will come out. Thanks.
From: niem...@clark.net (David C. Niemi) Subject: Re: 64 bit Linux? Date: 1995/05/26 Message-ID: <3q3hdn$4cs@clarknet.clark.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 103245411 references: <3pm1i9$mht@news.cais.com> content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 organization: SLMA mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: niem...@clark.net newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system In article <3pm1i9$...@news.cais.com>, fbenn...@cais.com () writes: >mamachari <inou0...@gold.tc.umn.edu> wrote: >>I was curious if there is now or will soon >>be a 64 bit version of Linux for Pentium-class >>machines. >Do you mean something that will handle the dual processor???? If thats >the fact then yes I am curious when the dual processor version will >come out. First, don't yearn so strongly for a true 64-bit processor, as it carries a lot of baggage (as true 64-bit code for the Alpha should show you). You need to distinguish a 64-bit data bus (which the Pentium has) from 64-bit date and address registers (which neither the Pentium nor the P6 has). Going blindly to full 64-bit code causes the code to fluff up, potentially *slowing down* the system unless bandwidth to DRAM is expanded similarly. One of the biggest performance advantages of Intel processors a very compact instruction set; while it comes at the price of a ridiculously irregular decoding scheme. The current version of Linux already makes very good use of the Pentium. A few % on a few key benchmarks can be achieved by using a more optimized version of GCC, but this has not been debugged. As for dual processors, a multiple processor version of Linux is just starting, and it will take a long time (at least several months) before it is useable. OTOH, some very good people are working on it and they have a good plan, so in a couple of years I expect the problem will be solved. ------------------------------------------------------------------ David C. Niemi (SLMA, Herndon, Virginia, USA) niem...@clark.net Know the difference between the color of the wine and the color of the glass. (Jalaluddin Rumi) ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dun...@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Steve Dunham) Subject: Re: 64 bit Linux? Date: 1995/05/26 Message-ID: <3q4mcu$vnj@msunews.cl.msu.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 103358762 references: <3pm1i9$mht@news.cais.com> <3q3hdn$4cs@clarknet.clark.net> organization: Michigan State University newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system David C. Niemi (niem...@clark.net) wrote: : As for dual processors, a multiple processor version of Linux is : just starting, and it will take a long time (at least several : months) before it is useable. OTOH, some very good people are : working on it and they have a good plan, so in a couple of years I : expect the problem will be solved. Thomas Radke et al, at TU Chemnitz-Zwickau, have a dual-pentium Linux kernel that runs on the Compaq ProLiant 4000. The kernel runs on both processors, but only runs on one at a time via a locking mechanism described in their paper. One of the benchmarks they used in the paper was compiling 135 C++ source files (with make --jobs2) so it works enough to get the compiler running (the user time was cut in half and the system time was about the same). They've also implemented a multithreading Linux kernel, described in another paper. In <Pine.LNX.3.91.950509234546.893A-100...@goliath.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> Ronald Wahl <r...@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de> gives the URL: http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jwern/parlabs.html for these papers and also said he would email them. They are in GERMAN. You may have problems getting them to print on American printers; I had to go into the .ps code and change the paper type from `a4' to `letter' to get it to print right. (The papers are numbered 02/95 for the multiprocesor one and 06/94 for the threads one.) Steve dun...@gdl.msu.edu
From: iia...@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: 64 bit Linux? Date: 1995/05/26 Message-ID: <D973Gw.LB3@info.swan.ac.uk>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 103358767 sender: n...@info.swan.ac.uk x-nntp-posting-host: iifeak.swan.ac.uk references: <3pm1i9$mht@news.cais.com> <3q3hdn$4cs@clarknet.clark.net> <3q4mcu$vnj@msunews.cl.msu.edu> organization: Institute For Industrial Information Technology newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system In article <3q4mcu$...@msunews.cl.msu.edu> dun...@cl-next4.cl.msu.edu (Steve Dunham) writes: >David C. Niemi (niem...@clark.net) wrote: >: As for dual processors, a multiple processor version of Linux is >: just starting, and it will take a long time (at least several >: months) before it is useable. OTOH, some very good people are >: working on it and they have a good plan, so in a couple of years I >: expect the problem will be solved. > >Thomas Radke et al, at TU Chemnitz-Zwickau, have a dual-pentium Linux >kernel that runs on the Compaq ProLiant 4000. The kernel runs on both >processors, but only runs on one at a time via a locking mechanism >described in their paper. Unfortunately they are using code which is compaq NDA covered so its not of major use to anyone 8(. The papers are worth decoding from German though. Alan