From: che...@earth.sparco.com (Mubashir Cheema) Subject: NCSA says, Linux has a problem ! Date: 1995/04/26 Message-ID: <cheema.798876239@nntp.msstate.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 101482029 organization: Sparco Communications Corporation, Starkville MS newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy I have been anxiously waiting for NCSA to release their new httpd 1.4 for some time now. I was a surprised/disappointed to see a post by an NCSA rep at http://union.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HyperNews/get/www/httpd-beta.html saying : "Linux doesn't support file descriptor passing, though some people have proposed a hack using the /proc file system to open the file descriptors of other processes. So, linux #defines NO_PASS in httpd.h, and therefore doesn't support StartServers and MaxServers. It acts like an enhanced 1.3, similar to if you set StartServers/MaxServers to 0." So I won't be able to use the new server to its fullest :( Mubashir Cheema
From: br...@far0027.urh.uiuc.edu (Brian J. Swetland) Subject: Re: NCSA says, Linux has a problem ! Date: 1995/04/26 Message-ID: <3nkpfo$2ip@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 101482030 references: <cheema.798876239@nntp.msstate.edu> followup-to: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign reply-to: swet...@uiuc.edu newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy Mubashir Cheema (che...@earth.sparco.com) wrote: | I have been anxiously waiting for NCSA to release their new | httpd 1.4 for some time now. I was a surprised/disappointed | to see a post by an NCSA rep at | http://union.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HyperNews/get/www/httpd-beta.html saying : | | "Linux doesn't support file descriptor passing, though some | people have proposed a hack using the /proc file system | to open the file descriptors of other processes. | | So, linux #defines NO_PASS in httpd.h, and therefore | doesn't support StartServers and MaxServers. It acts like | an enhanced 1.3, similar to if you set StartServers/MaxServers | to 0." | | So I won't be able to use the new server to its fullest :( You can do it as a hack using the proc filesystem, but the server group is not implementing this due to its inelegance and general 'kludgy-ness'. If fd passing is ever supported by the kernel I'm sure it will be supported. -- Brian J. Swetland NCSA SDG Mosaic/X Developer swet...@ncsa.uiuc.edu
From: mpdi...@coho.halcyon.com (Michael Dillon) Subject: Re: NCSA says, Linux has a problem ! Date: 1995/05/01 Message-ID: <3o1uoc$2ac@news1.halcyon.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 101752098 references: <cheema.798876239@nntp.msstate.edu> <3nkpfo$2ip@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> organization: Northwest Nexus, Inc. - Professional Internet Services newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy In article <3nkpfo$2...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Brian J. Swetland <swet...@uiuc.edu> wrote: >Mubashir Cheema (che...@earth.sparco.com) wrote: > >| I have been anxiously waiting for NCSA to release their new >| httpd 1.4 for some time now. I was a surprised/disappointed >| to see a post by an NCSA rep at >| http://union.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HyperNews/get/www/httpd-beta.html saying : >| >| "Linux doesn't support file descriptor passing, though some >| people have proposed a hack using the /proc file system >| to open the file descriptors of other processes. You might want to check out APACHE which is also an improved NCSA 1.3 server by a group that intends to make that future work on the server is not commercialised such as NCSA has done with Mosaic. Have a look at the following URL for details: http://www.hyperreal.com/apache/
From: Brandon Long <bl...@uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: NCSA says, Linux has a problem ! Date: 1995/05/02 Message-ID: <3o56rn$q9b@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 101882237 references: <cheema.798876239@nntp.msstate.edu> <3nkpfo$2ip@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3o1uoc$2ac@news1.halcyon.com> organization: University of Illinois at Urbana reply-to: bl...@uiuc.edu newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy In comp.os.linux.development.system you write: >In article <3nkpfo$2...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, >Brian J. Swetland <swet...@uiuc.edu> wrote: >>Mubashir Cheema (che...@earth.sparco.com) wrote: >> >>| I have been anxiously waiting for NCSA to release their new >>| httpd 1.4 for some time now. I was a surprised/disappointed >>| to see a post by an NCSA rep at >>| http://union.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HyperNews/get/www/httpd-beta.html saying : >>| >>| "Linux doesn't support file descriptor passing, though some >>| people have proposed a hack using the /proc file system >>| to open the file descriptors of other processes. >You might want to check out APACHE which is also an improved NCSA 1.3 >server by a group that intends to make that future work on the server is >not commercialised such as NCSA has done with Mosaic. To make the future work on the server non-commercialized unlike what NCSA has done with Mosaic, you mean. I don't think anyone wants the NCSA server code, and if you look at it, you'll know why . . . Rob's learned a lot since then, I hear. >Have a look at the following URL for details: >http://www.hyperreal.com/apache/ Apache intends to support a similar (read: 1.4 derived) file descriptor passing scheme. Its in alpha now. This means that Apache will require the modifications to the kernel as well. Brandon -- Brandon Long (N9WUC) "I think, therefore, I am confused." -- RAW Computer Engineering Run Linux 1.1.xxx It's that Easy. University of Illinois bl...@uiuc.edu http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~bl6456/ Don't worry, these aren't even my views.
From: smi...@mpx.com.au (Anthony Rumble) Subject: Re: NCSA says, Linux has a problem ! Date: 1995/05/18 Message-ID: <3pflct$csh@inferno.mpx.com.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 102844512 references: <cheema.798876239@nntp.msstate.edu> <3nkpfo$2ip@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3o1uoc$2ac@news1.halcyon.com> <3o56rn$q9b@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> followup-to: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy organization: Matt's Unix Workstation. newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy Brandon Long (bl...@uiuc.edu) wrote: : In comp.os.linux.development.system you write: : >In article <3nkpfo$2...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, : >Brian J. Swetland <swet...@uiuc.edu> wrote: : >>Mubashir Cheema (che...@earth.sparco.com) wrote: : >> : >>| I have been anxiously waiting for NCSA to release their new : >>| httpd 1.4 for some time now. I was a surprised/disappointed : >>| to see a post by an NCSA rep at : >>| http://union.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HyperNews/get/www/httpd-beta.html saying : : >>| : >>| "Linux doesn't support file descriptor passing, though some : >>| people have proposed a hack using the /proc file system : >>| to open the file descriptors of other processes. : >You might want to check out APACHE which is also an improved NCSA 1.3 : >server by a group that intends to make that future work on the server is : >not commercialised such as NCSA has done with Mosaic. : To make the future work on the server non-commercialized unlike what NCSA : has done with Mosaic, you mean. I don't think anyone wants the NCSA server : code, and if you look at it, you'll know why . . . Rob's learned a lot : since then, I hear. : >Have a look at the following URL for details: : >http://www.hyperreal.com/apache/ : Apache intends to support a similar (read: 1.4 derived) file descriptor passing : scheme. Its in alpha now. This means that Apache will require the : modifications to the kernel as well. Any idea if there are patches yet? Has Linus got them? -- Anthony Rumble - aka SmilieZ Work 02-438-1234 Fax 02-906-2326
From: d...@picard.cistron.nl (Danny ter Haar) Subject: Re: NCSA says, Linux has a problem ! Date: 1995/05/19 Message-ID: <3phl08$5an@picard.cistron.nl>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 102844450 references: <cheema.798876239@nntp.msstate.edu> <3o1uoc$2ac@news1.halcyon.com> <3o56rn$q9b@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3pflct$csh@inferno.mpx.com.au> organization: Cistron Internet Services - the Netherlands newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy smi...@mpx.com.au (Anthony Rumble) wrote: >Brandon Long (bl...@uiuc.edu) wrote: >: In comp.os.linux.development.system you write: > >: Apache intends to support a similar (read: 1.4 derived) file descriptor passing >: scheme. Its in alpha now. This means that Apache will require the >: modifications to the kernel as well. > >Any idea if there are patches yet? Has Linus got them? > >-- >Anthony Rumble - aka SmilieZ >Work 02-438-1234 Fax 02-906-2326 YES! look in ftp.cistron.nl/linux/www the file 2399 May 6 16:42 httpd_1.4-linux-diffs Good luck ! Danny -- =========================================================================== Danny ter Haar, Cistron Netherlands | d...@cistron.nl, +31-1720-40005 > Who the hell is General Failure and what is he doing on my hard disk? < > ans: A litte voice in you computer asking you 'when was your last backup?'