From dirk@luedi.oche.de Received: (qmail 6220 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1998 15:21:29 -0000 Received: from downtown.oche.de (root@194.94.253.3) by mail2.redhat.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1998 15:21:29 -0000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by downtown.oche.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id RAA03567 for gnome-list@gnome.org; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:20:01 +0200 Received: from localhost (dirk@localhost) by server.wg.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id RAA02941 for <gnome-list@gnome.org>; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:11:23 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:11:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Dirk Luetjens <dirk@luedi.oche.de> To: gnome-list@gnome.org Subject: RE: "GNOME System Control Panel Project Announced" Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980425165220.2912B-100000@server.wg.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I read in the news page about an "GNOME System Control Panel Project". I would strongly suggest to have a look at the COAS project. It is located at http://www.coas.org. It is a modular approach to do system configuration. I'm not sure about the status of the COAS project. The last time I tried it, it wouldn't even compile and afterwards it segfaulted. But this was although the time when I changed to glibc and I faced a lot of similiar problems due to the change. The mailing list is although quiet in the moment. As far as I know Bruce Perens, the former Debian project leader, announced that he started a gtk-port of the COAS front end. I haven't seen any messages about this again. Perhaps we should help with this port, or enhance it to a GNOME Port. Technically COAS is a system administration tool wich divide between the front end (gtk, qt, ncurses) visualisation and the backend which do the basic configuration stuff. The application developper, e.g squid, apache, ... provide a module that is capable of reading and writing the configuration files and provides the data structures to COAS. If the backend is not capable of saving all configuration information between to sessions COAS can do this for the module. I think this tool is worth a look and I'm looking forward for a running version. Please have a look at it, before programming a new system configurator Dirk
From johnsonm@redhat.com Received: (qmail 16511 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1998 15:33:27 -0000 Received: from lacrosse.redhat.com (root@207.175.42.154) by mail2.redhat.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 1998 15:33:27 -0000 Received: from tristan.redhat.com (tristan.redhat.com [207.175.42.7]) by lacrosse.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA03834 for <gnome-list@gnome.org>; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:33:27 -0400 Received: from tristan.redhat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tristan.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04909 for <gnome-list@gnome.org>; Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:33:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199804251533.LAA04909@tristan.redhat.com> To: gnome-list@gnome.org From: "Michael K. Johnson" <johnsonm@redhat.com> Subject: Re: "GNOME System Control Panel Project Announced" In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:11:23 +0200." <Pine.LNX.3.96.980425165220.2912B-100000@server.wg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 11:33:26 -0300 Sender: johnsonm@redhat.com Dirk Luetjens writes: >I'm not sure about the status of the COAS project. The last time I tried >it, it wouldn't even compile and afterwards it segfaulted. ... >Technically COAS is a system administration tool wich divide between the >front end (gtk, qt, ncurses) visualisation and the backend which do the >basic configuration stuff. Heh, linuxconf does that. It has the front ends you mention (well, the Qt one is supposed to be under development, haven't heard much about it though, and I haven't been asking), but it has gtk, ncurses, slang/newt, wxxt, java, and web frontends now. It also provides services, and has a set of core services with modules that get attached to the core. The difference is that it works and has been working for 2 years... Maybe that's why gnome has included a linuxconf front end since last fall?:-) michaelkjohnson "Magazines all too frequently lead to books and should be regarded by the prudent as the heavy petting of literature." -- Fran Lebowitz Linux Application Development http://www.redhat.com/~johnsonm/lad/